Gemal's Psyched Blog - Comments on New Plugin Installer http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/index.html When Mozilla or Mozilla Firefox encounters a page that uses a plugin that isn't installed you're presented with the "Plugin Downloader" dialog which is not very nice at all. Fx it refers to Netscape.com to find and download plugins. You... en-us Copyright 2009 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:48:53 +0100 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:37:01 +0100 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.17 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss http://gemal.dk/ http://gemal.dk//pics/favicon.png Gemal's Psyched Blog By el Zeratulo Does the new Plugin Installer try to warn Users about malicious plugins? And does it use some sort of verification or something similar so that it won't be possible to easily deploy malicious trojans or something similar? Does the new Plugin Installer try to warn Users about malicious plugins? And does it use some sort of verification or something similar so that it won't be possible to easily deploy malicious trojans or something similar?

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment1?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment1 Sat, 21 Aug 2004 12:20:30 +0100 el Zeratulo el_Zeratulo@gmx.net By Laurens Holst el Zeratulo: it will of course only be able to install plugins which are served by Netscape (or perhaps Mozilla themselves). As they have control over the plugins they offer, I am sure they won't allow the kind you are afraid of.~Grauw el Zeratulo: it will of course only be able to install plugins which are served by Netscape (or perhaps Mozilla themselves). As they have control over the plugins they offer, I am sure they won't allow the kind you are afraid of.

~Grauw

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment2?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment2 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:22:20 +0100 Laurens Holst lhost@students.cs.uu.nl By J.B. Nicholson-Owens Netscape and/or Mozilla might not "allow" malicious plugins, but lots of people use networks that can be subverted (unencrypted wireless networks, for instance). Publicly signing the plugin or even the packaging of the plugin would go some ways to insuring that the recipient actually acquired what the "trustworthy" site was intending to send, no?As for the quoted words, I don't think any site is bullet-proof so I don't think it's a good idea to suggest that trustworthiness comes from seeing a domain name in a link to a plugin. I'm sure more clever people than I can come up with a number of ways to fool a user into thinking that they're getting data from Netscape or Mozilla but it's actually coming from some malicious site instead. Netscape and/or Mozilla might not "allow" malicious plugins, but lots of people use networks that can be subverted (unencrypted wireless networks, for instance). Publicly signing the plugin or even the packaging of the plugin would go some ways to insuring that the recipient actually acquired what the "trustworthy" site was intending to send, no?

As for the quoted words, I don't think any site is bullet-proof so I don't think it's a good idea to suggest that trustworthiness comes from seeing a domain name in a link to a plugin. I'm sure more clever people than I can come up with a number of ways to fool a user into thinking that they're getting data from Netscape or Mozilla but it's actually coming from some malicious site instead.

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment3?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment3 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:25:23 +0100 J.B. Nicholson-Owens jbn@forestfield.org By PLWong Nicholson-Owens~But then if the browser is the one that make a request to ask the server to send in a plugin, then the browser should have enough power to allow sending plugin request only from update.mozilla.org or something.Then even if those people try to fake address, it won't hurt because the browser is sending a request to the server, let's say update.mozilla.org, and won't allow request of installing plugins to be sent from the server.If you talk about wireless, then it's itself not really secure at this point anyways. It should be a higher level issue than the browser. Nicholson-Owens~

But then if the browser is the one that make a request to ask the server to send in a plugin, then the browser should have enough power to allow sending plugin request only from update.mozilla.org or something.

Then even if those people try to fake address, it won't hurt because the browser is sending a request to the server, let's say update.mozilla.org, and won't allow request of installing plugins to be sent from the server.

If you talk about wireless, then it's itself not really secure at this point anyways. It should be a higher level issue than the browser.

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment4?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment4 Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:39:12 +0100 PLWong pplwong@openoffice.org By Ard Righ I am curious if the plugins that will be searched for this new finder will be whitelisted to only use update.mozilla.org (as the 1.0pr has done with extensions), or manually add trusted domains ? And as above, the 'Manual install' button should offer a warning to all plugins possibly being malicious if they are not from a whitelisted domain. I am curious if the plugins that will be searched for this new finder will be whitelisted to only use update.mozilla.org (as the 1.0pr has done with extensions), or manually add trusted domains ?

And as above, the 'Manual install' button should offer a warning to all plugins possibly being malicious if they are not from a whitelisted domain.

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment5?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment5 Wed, 15 Sep 2004 07:29:05 +0100 Ard Righ ardrigh_@hotmail.com By GlennR Does the new version of Firefox use Sun's Java Plug-in? I noticed that when I went to load the Java Plug-in for use with Firefox 0.9 Sun's Java Console only had IE and Mozilla 1.1. Does that mean that Firefox doesn't taken advantage of Sun's Java Plug-in? Does the new version of Firefox use Sun's Java Plug-in? I noticed that when I went to load the Java Plug-in for use with Firefox 0.9 Sun's Java Console only had IE and Mozilla 1.1. Does that mean that Firefox doesn't taken advantage of Sun's Java Plug-in?

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment6?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment6 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 03:34:42 +0100 GlennR gara80126@yahoo.com By Era Is there a way to disable this feature? It's annoying enough for me to switch back to 0.9/0.8 or even try to find some other browsers. Extremely annoying. Is there a way to disable this feature? It's annoying enough for me to switch back to 0.9/0.8 or even try to find some other browsers. Extremely annoying.

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment7?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment7 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:32:46 +0100 Era erfin@mail2world.com By Rita Timar Hello,When I go to games.yahoo.com and try to play a game a screen shot of a puzzle peice comes up saying I have to "download plugin" well when I click on it it says no suitable plugin was found and I cannot view the page neccessary to play the game. Please let me know how I might fix this problem.Thank you,Rita Hello,
When I go to games.yahoo.com and try to play a game a screen shot of a puzzle peice comes up saying I have to "download plugin" well when I click on it it says no suitable plugin was found and I cannot view the page neccessary to play the game. Please let me know how I might fix this problem.

Thank you,
Rita

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment8?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment8 Fri, 17 Sep 2004 04:31:51 +0100 Rita Timar devilisheyes2@lycos.com By Brian Hi,The new "Plugin Downloader", seems to have a bug. I am informed that I require plugins, but when I try to download a plugin I get a message stating that no plugins are available.Without these required plugins most web pages do not load correctly.Please cvan someone help?Brian. Hi,
The new "Plugin Downloader", seems to have a bug. I am informed that I require plugins, but when I try to download a plugin I get a message stating that no plugins are available.
Without these required plugins most web pages do not load correctly.
Please cvan someone help?
Brian.

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment9?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment9 Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:04:52 +0100 Brian egoment@hotmail.com By Mark I noticed the same bug that Brian did. When attempting to view streaming video, I received a notice that the required plugins were missing and that they would be located and installed. However, the process ended with the message that "no plugins are available." Also, when I first installed and loaded Firefox, my homepage at SBC Yahoo had the notice that I required Flash Media 6 in order to view the multimedia images on the page. When I clicked on the link to download and install the newer version (I think it was 7.0) and then restarted Firefox, it stilled displayed the same notice that I would need to upgrade the Flash Media player. I was presented with the option of running the browser in "lite mode" which I selected. How do I return to the standard mode and how do I remedy the multimedia bug? I noticed the same bug that Brian did. When attempting to view streaming video, I received a notice that the required plugins were missing and that they would be located and installed. However, the process ended with the message that "no plugins are available." Also, when I first installed and loaded Firefox, my homepage at SBC Yahoo had the notice that I required Flash Media 6 in order to view the multimedia images on the page. When I clicked on the link to download and install the newer version (I think it was 7.0) and then restarted Firefox, it stilled displayed the same notice that I would need to upgrade the Flash Media player. I was presented with the option of running the browser in "lite mode" which I selected. How do I return to the standard mode and how do I remedy the multimedia bug?

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment10?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment10 Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:57:38 +0100 Mark planeview@aol.com By Linuxguy unwanted spaces at the begining of the text boxes when copied to notepad in firefox not seen in IE. Any solutions.. unwanted spaces at the begining of the text boxes when copied to notepad in firefox not seen in IE. Any solutions..

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment11?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment11 Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:47:26 +0100 Linuxguy smalldude71178@yahoo.com By Rudy I have the SAME problem as Mark and Brian...I go to my Homepage at SBC Yahoo and had a notice that I needed Flash 6.....I clicked on the link and installed 7.0 and had to reboot. I still have the same notice. I have the SAME problem as Mark and Brian...I go to my Homepage at SBC Yahoo and had a notice that I needed Flash 6.....I clicked on the link and installed 7.0 and had to reboot. I still have the same notice.

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment12?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment12 Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:20:34 +0100 Rudy rmmarquez@hotmail.com By sam I have the same problem as Mark, Brian and Rudy, but I notice the flash on other sites work fine. I have the same problem as Mark, Brian and Rudy, but I notice the flash on other sites work fine.

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment13?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment13 Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:53:39 +0100 sam s.guevara78@gmail.com By codeunguru ack! my right click which was working just fine up til a wee while ago suddenly is gone ack! I wants it back, yes I does! Other than that Imma LOVING 1.0PR *GRIN* ack! my right click which was working just fine up til a wee while ago suddenly is gone ack! I wants it back, yes I does! Other than that Imma LOVING 1.0PR *GRIN*

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment14?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment14 Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:19:19 +0100 codeunguru codeunguru@yahool.com By ButchPrice I have succesfully used the FlashBlock plugin for months.This past week I was forced to install the latest "Flash" version. It wiped out ALL my mozilla related settings.Not bad enough, but since this unfortunate incident, Firebird will NOT load or install the FlashBlock plugin. Anyone else have this problem? Any fixes? I am suspecting macromedia may have dropped a key in the registry to incite this behavior,but am unsure where to look.Word to the wise, DON'T INSTALL Flash 7! I have succesfully used the FlashBlock plugin for months.
This past week I was forced to install the latest "Flash" version. It wiped out ALL my mozilla related settings.
Not bad enough, but since this unfortunate incident, Firebird will NOT load or install the FlashBlock plugin. Anyone else have this problem? Any fixes? I am suspecting macromedia may have dropped a key in the registry to incite this behavior,but am unsure where to look.
Word to the wise, DON'T INSTALL Flash 7!

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment15?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment15 Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:59:40 +0100 ButchPrice lfpjr@onlyinternet.net By Uncle Peek I am frustrated using Mozilla Firefox. I go to alot of websites, and pictures, (Jpgs) will not open at all. The only way to see them is when I right click where the picture is, and click "view image", and it will open in a new window.This is so frustrating that I want to use another browser, and I soon will, because it makes me so mad.NOBODY seems to know about this. I have asked Everybody I can think of, including Mozilla Tech Suport, and I never get an answer.I am fed up with Firefox, and will not use it anymore if I don't get a solution to this. It has to be a setting or something, but Mozilla Tech Support is clueless. I am frustrated using Mozilla Firefox. I go to alot of websites, and pictures, (Jpgs) will not open at all. The only way to see them is when I right click where the picture is, and click "view image", and it will open in a new window.
This is so frustrating that I want to use another browser, and I soon will, because it makes me so mad.
NOBODY seems to know about this. I have asked Everybody I can think of, including Mozilla Tech Suport, and I never get an answer.
I am fed up with Firefox, and will not use it anymore if I don't get a solution to this. It has to be a setting or something, but Mozilla Tech Support is clueless.

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment16?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment16 Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:11:15 +0100 Uncle Peek unclemamuncle@yahoo.com By Willy Wonka To fix the images not showing up, have you tried going to Options->Web Features, and making sure 'Load images' box is checked? To fix the images not showing up, have you tried going to Options->Web Features, and making sure 'Load images' box is checked?

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment17?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment17 Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:14:22 +0100 Willy Wonka sensashn@yahoo.com By Jim L I also am having trouble viewing some websites because apparently Firefox lacks the plugins. But the plugin downloader says "no plugin available."I wonder if this is because websites produced by FrontPage have certain propietary features that only IE can view?See: www.itspolitics.com to catch my drift. I also am having trouble viewing some websites because apparently Firefox lacks the plugins. But the plugin downloader says "no plugin available."

I wonder if this is because websites produced by FrontPage have certain propietary features that only IE can view?

See: www.itspolitics.com to catch my drift.

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment18?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment18 Sun, 19 Sep 2004 08:04:33 +0100 Jim L jdl@surewest.net By zenarcher I am also having the same problem. I am using Firefox for Linux and when going to a website, get the message that a plug-in is required....then after the search, the message tells me that no plug-in is available. I am also having the same problem. I am using Firefox for Linux and when going to a website, get the message that a plug-in is required....then after the search, the message tells me that no plug-in is available.

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment19?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment19 Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:14:16 +0100 zenarcher zenarcher@cableone.net By DieHard Maybe they dont have all the plugins that we need yet, but soon will have... Maybe they dont have all the plugins that we need yet, but soon will have...

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment20?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment20 Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:29:42 +0100 DieHard lucianochoffmann@yahoo.com.br By David When will it be possiable to make copies of the bookmarks file as a html type files?? I reformatte my multidrives about ever six months and as of yet ,since I like the firefox ,I have start all over or write them down by hand ,or the paste and copy thing.. Either way that all takes to long!!!!!! As much as I hate IE, I still have to do double work keeping the same in it ,since I cant copy the html files from firefox..Come guys and gals, give us a fully straight forward approuch to this.. Ty for the good work so Far!! D When will it be possiable to make copies of the bookmarks file as a html type files?? I reformatte my multidrives about ever six months and as of yet ,since I like the firefox ,I have start all over or write them down by hand ,or the paste and copy thing.. Either way that all takes to long!!!!!! As much as I hate IE, I still have to do double work keeping the same in it ,since I cant copy the html files from firefox..Come guys and gals, give us a fully straight forward approuch to this.. Ty for the good work so Far!! D

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment21?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment21 Mon, 20 Sep 2004 06:42:42 +0100 David raventhor2000@yahoo.com By Kevin R. Gallagher I too am getting the no plug-in available message. Is there any way to identify what plug in is needed so I can complain to the webmaster and the manufacturer of the plug-in? I too am getting the no plug-in available message. Is there any way to identify what plug in is needed so I can complain to the webmaster and the manufacturer of the plug-in?

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment22?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment22 Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:43:26 +0100 Kevin R. Gallagher krgallagher@yahoo.com By Renae Hello,When I go to sierra.com into hoyle card games it will not let me sign. Tells me to download active plug in after doing so it says no suitable plugin was found and I cannot view the page neccessary to play the game. Please let me know how I might fix this problem.Thank you, Hello,
When I go to sierra.com into hoyle card games it will not let me sign. Tells me to download active plug in after doing so it says no suitable plugin was found and I cannot view the page neccessary to play the game. Please let me know how I might fix this problem.

Thank you,

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment23?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment23 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 06:36:15 +0100 Renae rcrmontana@hotmail.com By Maarten Geurts There is no way to way in the user interface to disable displaying this yellow bar. Since i do not want to install flash (for looking at non-blockable moving ads) i geep getting this yellow bar.(bugzilla seems to be down right now)Could someone point me to the right preference to (in all.js?) to turn this off? There is no way to way in the user interface to disable displaying this yellow bar. Since i do not want to install flash (for looking at non-blockable moving ads) i geep getting this yellow bar.

(bugzilla seems to be down right now)

Could someone point me to the right preference to (in all.js?) to turn this off?

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment24?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment24 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:02:18 +0100 Maarten Geurts maartengeurts@zonnet.nl By Robert Evans I like firefox, but I have been unable to install the java plugin for jdk1.4.2 or jdk1.5.0RC. All of the online help seems to be for earlier versions of firefox, and don't work with firefox1.0 I like firefox, but I have been unable to install the java plugin for jdk1.4.2 or jdk1.5.0RC. All of the online help seems to be for earlier versions of firefox, and don't work with firefox1.0

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment25?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment25 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:00:50 +0100 Robert Evans firefox@beartoothmountain.com By Hugh Von Niederhausern Firefox is a life savercompared to that othercolumbia river browser. yes plugginsare a big downer. but the privacy Firefox affords is worth more than all thebells and whistles.Some day in the near future Firefox will be completely compatibleas the other old browser is replaced.long live Mozilla!!! Firefox is a life saver
compared to that other
columbia river browser. yes pluggins
are a big downer. but the privacy Firefox affords is worth more than all the
bells and whistles.
Some day in the near future Firefox will be completely compatible
as the other old browser is replaced.
long live Mozilla!!!

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment26?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment26 Wed, 22 Sep 2004 02:00:59 +0100 Hugh Von Niederhausern hughvon@yahoo.com By Matthew Quote from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261655...There is a way to disable it.about:config -> plugin.default_plugin_disabled -> false, then restart Quote from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261655...

There is a way to disable it.

about:config -> plugin.default_plugin_disabled -> false, then restart

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment27?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment27 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:59:25 +0100 Matthew homoerotic@ping.pong By splib wow. as often, i just come across this sort of blog(gish) weppage when googling specifics. but i'll comment on this topic... i'd never seen the "old" plugin dialog (shown in your screenshot). i'ts much more informative than teh current jigsaw icon (how appropriately symbolic: a monohued puzzle piece. solid color (or backside) jigsaws are more difficult to assemble than are variably colored puzzles) wow. as often, i just come across this sort of blog(gish) weppage when googling specifics. but i'll comment on this topic... i'd never seen the "old" plugin dialog (shown in your screenshot). i'ts much more informative than teh current jigsaw icon (how appropriately symbolic: a monohued puzzle piece. solid color (or backside) jigsaws are more difficult to assemble than are variably colored puzzles)

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment28?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment28 Tue, 17 Jan 2006 05:57:25 +0100 splib invalid@invalid.invalid By ZACHARY I HADE SUITABLE-PLUGINS ON SMACKDOWN BUT I LOST IT VEWING VIDEOS I HADE SUITABLE-PLUGINS ON SMACKDOWN BUT I LOST IT VEWING VIDEOS

]]> http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment29?from=rss-comment http://gemal.dk/blog/2004/08/20/new_plugin_installer/#comment29 Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:39:40 +0100 ZACHARY zlilly2587@ca..rr.com